Morality emerges out of iterative voluntary games. What we regard as moral is the principle that most aptly governs the longest game.It's an idea Peterson borrowed from Jean Piaget, a Swiss psychologist. Piaget focused on kids as ways to understand humanity at large. He believed that the act of voluntary play in kids is the precursor to ethical societies. The games are thus micro-cosmoses of society and as we grow up we are just extending the game into adulthood.

Morality emerges from play

If you think life is not a game, then you are not playing it properly.

If 2 groups are playing a game: one group playing the game voluntarily and another one forced to do so .... The voluntary group will always outperform the other. Fiat, ruling through power, is demonstrably a sub-optimal strategy compared to freedom. This idea has implications in:<ul><li>economy: a regulated economy will be outperformed by a free economy</li><li>management: unrestrained teams are doing better than micro-managed ones </li><li>etc ....</li></ul>

Voluntary Games vs Fiat

Alan Watts used to say life is a dance, not a journey. The eastern tradition has identified play as a the natural state for peace. Interesting how a psychological analysis can come up with similar findings. 

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson joins for me a special edition episode exploring the philosophic implications of Bitcoin as an incorruptible system of value. This episode was recorded in front a live studio audience on April 8th, 2022 during the Bitcoin 2022 Conference in Miami, FL. Be sure to check out Swan Private, your dedicated partner in developing and executing a Bitcoin strategy: https://www.swanbitcoin.com/private/ GUEST Dr. Peterson's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Dr. Peterson's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_f53ZEJxp8TtlOkHwMV9Q Dr. Peterson's LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/DrJordanBPeterson PODCAST Podcast Website: https://whatismoneypodcast.com/ Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-is-money-show/id1541404400 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25LPvm8EewBGyfQQ1abIsE?si=wgVuY16XR0io4NLNo0A11A&nd=1 RSS Feed: https://feeds.simplecast.com/MLdpYXYI Transcript: OUTLINE 00:00:00 “What is Money?” Intro 00:00:08 Intro by John Vallis 00:04:38 Standup Comedy Opening by JP Sears 00:27:22 Show Intro by Robert Breedlove 00:31:52 Welcoming Jordan Peterson 00:32:39 The Concept of Fiat and the Ethical Optimality of Voluntary Games 00:43:57 Voluntary Games Optimize the Genuine Motivation of Positive Emotion 00:45:03 Fiat Currency as an Involuntary Game and its Psychological Implications 00:48:10 What Justification is there for Use of Force or Fiat? 00:52:32 “Whenever You’re Doing a Thing You Want, You’re Playing.” 00:55:50 Defining Truth (and its Antagonism to Fiat) 01:00:43 The Spirit of Truth, the Process of Inquiry, and Freedom of Speech 01:04:11 Free Speech is How Humans Contend with an Incomputable Future 01:07:11 How an Incorruptible Money Could Impact the Free Market Process 01:11:44 How The Free Market Enhances Our Relationship with Value 01:13:39 Inflation Penalizes Prudence and, In Doing So, Destroys Civilization 01:16:58 Giving Gratitude to our Sponsors 01:29:40 Controlling Speech and Money as Unerring Hallmarks of Totalitarianism 01:35:04 The Costliness of Signaling and the Sanity of Communication 01:39:18 “The Monetary Standard and Moral Standard are Inexorably Linked” 01:45:09 What are the Unexpected Consequences of Bitcoin? 01:49:00 Systemized Violations of Property and the Inducement of Irresponsibility 01:53:51 Bitcoin and The Philosopher’s Stone 02:00:15 Money is a Promise: A Contract with the Future 02:03:44 The Impact of Technological Innovation on Trust in Society 02:07:02 Christ and the Value of Absolute Truthfulness 02:10:56 The Personal Transformations Occurring in the Lives of Bitcoiners 02:13:05 Bitcoin as a Means of Detaching Exploitation From Economic Success 02:17:03 “What is Money?” Outro SOCIAL Breedlove Twitter: https://twitter.com/Breedlove22 WiM? Twitter: https://twitter.com/WhatisMoneyShow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/breedlove22/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breedlove_22/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@breedlove22?lang=en All My Current Work: https://linktr.ee/breedlove22 WRITTEN WORK Medium: https://breedlove22.medium.com/ Substack: https://breedlove22.substack.com/ WAYS TO CONTRIBUTE Bitcoin: 3D1gfxKZKMtfWaD1bkwiR6JsDzu6e9bZQ7 Sats via Strike: https://strike.me/breedlove22 Sats via Tippin.me: https://tippin.me/@Breedlove22 Dollars via Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/RBreedlove Dollars via Venmo: https://venmo.com/code?user_id=1784359925317632528 The "What is Money?" Show Patreon Page: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=32843101&fan_landing=true RECOMMENDED BUSINESSES Off the Chain Capital is the best performing value investment fund over the past 5 years: https://offthechain.capital/ Iris Energy is focused on building mining Bitcoin operations with sustainable energy: https://irisenergy.co/ Swan Private guides high-net-worth individuals and businesses in all areas of Bitcoin strategy: https://www.swanbitcoin.com/private/ Noah is the mobile money app of the future—the all-in-one money app for everyone, everywhere: https://noah.com/?referral=iseqvom&refSource=copy Okcoin is an innovative and education-focused cryptoasset exchange platform—earn $50 in free Bitcoin by signing up at: okcoin.com/breedlove Join Me At Bitcoin 2023, pre-order your tickets now (discount code BREEDLOVE): https://b.tc/conference/2023 Looking Glass is a free, all-in-one educational platform built with the intention of empowering individuals to take control of their financial future: http://www.lookingglasseducaation.com/ Trammell Venture Partners (TVP) is a venture capital firm that launched the industry's first institutional venture fund series focused on Bitcoin startups: https://tvp.fund/

Interesting Philosophy

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"What you aim at determines what you see."

"We are all human. That means there is something about our experience that is the same. Otherwise, we would not all be human."

"But proper discipline organizes rather than destroys."

"Do you not hide unwanted things in the fog."

"Imagine who you could be and then aim single mindedly at that."

"If you don't say what you think then you kill your unborn self."

"I don't think that you have any insight whatsoever into your capacity for good until you have some well-developed insight into your capacity for evil."

"When you have something to say, silence is a lie."

"Create habitable chaos out of order."

"It is much better to make friends with what you do not know than with what you do know, as there is an infinite supply of the former but a finite stock of the latter."

"It may well be, therefore, that the true meaning of life is not to be found in what is objective, but in what is subjective (but still universal)."

"You should be careful, therefore, to live your life fully, and marriage and children and grandchildren, and all the trouble and heartbreak that accompanies all of that, is much of what life has to offer. Miss it at your great peril."

"There is no evidence that the importance of friendship declines in any manner with age."

"What is the moral of the story? Make yourself colorful, stand out, and the lions will take you down. And the lions are always there."

"When you are tightly boxed in or cornered -all too often by your own stubborn and fixed adherence to some unconsciously worshipped assumptions-all there is to help you is what you have not yet learned."

"We are all human. That means there is something about our experience that is the same. Otherwise, we would not all be human."

"I will trust you-I will extend my hand to you-despite the risk of betrayal, because it is possible, through trust, to bring out the best in you, and perhaps in me."

"Humility: It is better to presume ignorance and invite learning than to assume sufficient knowledge and risk the consequent blindness."

"We outsource the problem of sanity. People remain mentally healthy not merely because of the integrity of their own minds, but because they are constantly being reminded how to think, act, and speak by those around them."

"That which you most need to find will be found where you least wish to look."

"If you are not willing to be a fool, you can't become a master."

"Notice that opportunity lurks where responsibility has been abdicated."

"Perhaps you are overvaluing what you don't have and undervaluing what you do."

"To suffer terribly and to know yourself as the cause: that is Hell."

"The purpose of life, as far as I can tell... Is to find a mode of being that's so meaningful that the fact that life is suffering is no longer relevant."

"If old memories still upset you, write them down carefully and completely."

"Be grateful in spite of your suffering."

"If you fulfill your obligations everyday you don't need to worry about the future."

"And if you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of."

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Beyond Order By Jordan B. Peterson

The companion volume to 12 Rules for Life offers further guidance on the perilous path of modern life. In 12 Rules for Life, clinical psychologist and celebrated professor at Harvard and the University of Toronto Dr. Jordan B. Peterson helped millions of readers impose order on the chaos of their lives. Now, in this bold sequel, Peterson delivers twelve more lifesaving principles for resisting the exhausting toll that our desire to order the world inevitably takes. In a time when the human will increasingly imposes itself over every sphere of life—from our social structures to our emotional states—Peterson warns that too much security is dangerous. What’s more, he offers strategies for overcoming the cultural, scientific, and psychological forces causing us to tend toward tyranny, and teaches us how to rely instead on our instinct to find meaning and purpose, even—and especially—when we find ourselves powerless. While chaos, in excess, threatens us with instability and anxiety, unchecked order can petrify us into submission. Beyond Order provides a call to balance these two fundamental principles of reality itself, and guides us along the straight and narrow path that divides them.

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