It's not the hard problem of consciousness. It's the hard problem of matter.

The problem deals with explaining why any physical state is conscious rather than non-conscious. Or how does material existence leads to awareness.Spira proposes that, consciousness is that through which all experiences is known. This definition aims to invoke more than explain. Following it, it results consciousness transcends all mathematical descriptions, which Hoffman agrees with. But even though the proposal seems to be that consciousness is fundamental and we can never get to a math model for it, incomplete explanations may have value.

The Hard Problem of Consciousness

Most scientists assume time & physical objects are fundamental. And that certain physical objects like brains poses a level of complexity that allows them to get conscious. Hoffman beliefs that it's the other way around. That consciousness creates physical systems. And that space-time is dead:<ul><li>proved by natural selection: because complex systems hide complexity -> space time is just an abstraction </li><li>the traditional physics has no operational meaning below the “Planck scale,” roughly 10 at the power of -20 times the size of a proton. </li></ul>

Is space-time fundamental?

Cool conversation between two rebels of their fields. Spira as a extremist non-dualist and Hoffman as a reality denier :)

In the latest Rupert Spira Podcast episode Simon Mundie moderates a fascinating discussion on science and spirituality with Rupert and cognitive scientist Donald Hoffman. The conversation includes topics such as: Why is the concept of space-time is doomed? How close are we to a theory of everything? Does the perennial philosophy need an upgrade? Can maths describe reality? Why does the one localise? and Is science finally catching up with what the great spiritual traditions have been telling us for centuries? You can follow Donald Hoffman on Twitter @donalddhoffman You follow Simon Mundie on Twitter and Instagram @simonmundie Timestamps: 0:00 The Case Against Reality 3:00 The Hard Problem Of Consciousness 9:52 Why Are Most Scientists Materialists? 12:54 Who Is Qualified To Make Observations About The Nature Of Reality? 15:29 The Hard Problem Of Matter 20:33 No-One Has Ever Found Matter 25:10 Space-Time Is Doomed 32:48 Quantum Theory Is Not Fundamental Either 34:03 Why Is The Fact That Space-Time Is Doomed Not On The News? 40:57 The Real Meaning Of The Word Illusion 47:40 Exploring Other Dimensions 57:14 What Are Conscious Agents? 1:04:06 One Consciousness 1:07:32 Infinite Infinities 1:12:19 Why Does The One Localise? 1:15:46 Could There Be A ‘why’ On The Relative Level? 1:23:48 Interface Theory 1:36:05 A Theory Of Everything 1:41:06 A Convergence Of Science And Spirituality 1:49:46 The Implications Of The Perennial Philosophy 1:55:51 Let Go Of Thought 2:01:08 Seeing Through The Illusion Of The Separate Self 2:10:08 Thoughts, Fears And Beliefs 2:14:46 Walking The Talk –– ACCESS FULL VIDEO ARCHIVE You can watch or listen to 1000s of hours of teachings, guided meditations and answers in Rupert's full video archive here: ▸ https://rupertspira.com/subscriptions –– RETREATS (Weekend, 5-day, 7-day) Rupert holds regular retreats, roughly once per month, either in-person and online. Many in-person retreats can also be attended from the comfort of your home via livestream. ONLINE RETREAT SCHEDULE ▸ https://rupertspira.com/events/retreat-at-home IN-PERSON RETREATS SCHEDULE (Also Available to Join Online via Live Stream) ▸ UK https://rupertspira.com/event/location/united-kingdom ▸ US https://rupertspira.com/event/location/united-states –– WEEKLY WEBINARS (2 hours) Rupert's webinars take place most Sunday and Thursday evenings, from 4pm UK time. In the first twenty to thirty minutes, Rupert leads a spontaneous meditation. The remaining time is open for attendees to discuss their questions with Rupert. Attendance is By Donation. WEEKLY WEBINAR SCHEDULE ▸ https://rupertspira.com/events/webinar –– FREE CONTENT, EVENTS & NEW RELEASES To be notified of free content, events (online and in-person), books and other new releases, please sign up to Rupert's free newsletter: https://rupertspira.com/free-newsletter –– BROWSE RUPERT’S BOOKS ▸ https://rupertspira.com/store –– LISTEN TO RUPERT’S PODCAST ▸ iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rupert-spira-podcast ▸ Libsyn: https://rupertspira.libsyn.com/ ▸ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6z1GNgC1js30g9RLSfBB4M –– JOIN RUPERT’S FACEBOOK GROUP ▸ https://www.facebook.com/groups/rupertspiracommunity –– FOLLOW RUPERT ON MEDIUM https://medium.com/@rupert_spira –– SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS ▸ Website: https://rupertspira.com ▸ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rupertspira_/ ▸ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rupertspira ▸ Twitter: https://twitter.com/rupertspira ▸ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rupertspira_ –– SUBSCRIBE TO RUPERT’S YOUTUBE ▸ https://www.youtube.com/user/rupertspira?sub_confirmation=1 –– #rupertspira #nonduality #happiness #natureofreality #consciousness #awareness #meditation #guidedmeditation

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In the latest Rupert Spira Podcast episode Simon Mundie moderates a fascinating discussion on science and spirituality with Rupert and cognitive scientist Donald Hoffman. 

The conversation includes topics such as: Why is the concept of space-time is doomed? How close are we to a theory of everything? Does the perennial philosophy need an upgrade? Can maths describe reality? Why does the one localise? and Is science finally catching up with what the great spiritual traditions have been telling us for centuries?

You can follow Donald Hoffman on Twitter @donalddhoffman
You follow Simon Mundie on Twitter and Instagram @simonmundie

Timestamps:

0:00 The Case Against Reality  
3:00 The Hard Problem Of Consciousness 
9:52 Why Are Most Scientists Materialists? 
12:54 Who Is Qualified To Make Observations About The Nature Of Reality?  
15:29 The Hard Problem Of Matter  
20:33 No-One Has Ever Found Matter
25:10 Space-Time Is Doomed
32:48 Quantum Theory Is Not Fundamental Either
34:03 Why Is The Fact That Space-Time Is Doomed Not On The News?  
40:57 The Real Meaning Of The Word Illusion
47:40 Exploring Other Dimensions
57:14 What Are Conscious Agents?  
1:04:06 One Consciousness
1:07:32 Infinite Infinities
1:12:19 Why Does The One Localise?
1:15:46 Could There Be A ‘why’ On The Relative Level?
1:23:48 Interface Theory
1:36:05 A Theory Of Everything
1:41:06 A Convergence Of Science And Spirituality
1:49:46 The Implications Of The Perennial Philosophy
1:55:51 Let Go Of Thought
2:01:08 Seeing Through The Illusion Of The Separate Self
2:10:08 Thoughts, Fears And Beliefs
2:14:46 Walking The Talk

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ACCESS FULL VIDEO ARCHIVE 
You can watch or listen to 1000s of hours of teachings, guided meditations and answers in Rupert's full video archive here: 
▸ https://rupertspira.com/subscriptions

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RETREATS (Weekend, 5-day, 7-day)
Rupert holds regular retreats, roughly once per month, either in-person and online. Many in-person retreats can also be attended from the comfort of your home via livestream. 

ONLINE RETREAT SCHEDULE
▸ https://rupertspira.com/events/retreat-at-home

IN-PERSON RETREATS SCHEDULE (Also Available to Join Online via Live Stream)
▸ UK https://rupertspira.com/event/location/united-kingdom
▸ US https://rupertspira.com/event/location/united-states

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WEEKLY WEBINARS (2 hours)
Rupert's webinars take place most Sunday and Thursday evenings, from 4pm UK time. In the first twenty to thirty minutes, Rupert leads a spontaneous meditation. The remaining time is open for attendees to discuss their questions with Rupert. Attendance is By Donation. 

WEEKLY WEBINAR SCHEDULE
▸ https://rupertspira.com/events/webinar

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FREE CONTENT, EVENTS & NEW RELEASES
To be notified of free content, events (online and in-person), books and other new releases, please sign up to Rupert's free newsletter: 
https://rupertspira.com/free-newsletter

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Rupert Spira is an international author, speaker and teacher of non-duality. 

In clips taken from conversations at meetings or retreats, he discuss all aspects of the non-dual understanding — from the initial investigation into our essential nature of pure Awareness, to the deeper exploration of consciousness and the separate 'me-feeling' in the body, to the realignment of the mind, body and world with this new understanding.

This is a contemporary, experiential approach to understanding the nature of reality and the self, involving silent meditation, guided meditation and conversation. It requires no affiliation to any religious or spiritual tradition, only a longing for lasting inner peace and happiness.

Rupert studied the teachings of Advaita Vedanta and the tantric tradition of Kashmir Shaivism through Dr. Francis Roles, Shantananda Saraswati, P.D.Ouspensky, Krishnamurti, Rumi, Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta, Robert Adams, Francis Lucille, Atmanada Krishnamenon and Jean Klein.

