Astro uses the analogy of "moving from the mentality of a gambler to a card counter" to highlight the fact that they are aligned with efficiency standards, unlike the actual moon mission which had national security issues prioritized over efficiency.
The approach cannot rely on pure luck or too much luck, rather it needs to align itself with efficiency. This is exactly what distinguishes a gambler from a card counter. It is not always about "Can we do it?" but rather "How efficiently can we do it?"
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A Bit of Optimism is a podcast by Simon Sinek that features conversations with people who inspire him about love, life, leadership, and hope. Here are a few learnings from this particular one with Astro Teller.
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