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The Biggest Name In Podcasting

The Biggest Name In Podcasting

At 182 million subscribers, Joe Rogan gets Musk, Snowden, and Tarantino to talk like nobody is listening.

A mediocre interviewer, but a true master of conversation.

Here are a few lessons for better conversations from 13 years of podcasting with Joe Rogan.


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Joe is overprepared.

• Preparation goes beyond Googling a guest

• He reads their latest AND their first publication

• He'll dig into their views and knows their trigger points

This is what it takes to keep someone talking for 3 hours.

Lesson: your commitment sets the tone.


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Create A Safe, Trusting Environment

Create A Safe, Trusting Environment

Joe makes guests feel safe.

• He breaks the ice and makes them laugh

• He acknowledges a guest's view & expertise

• Explains that he's here to learn, not to judge them

It starts from the first contact - Joe books guests himself!

Lesson: trust is the basis for conversation.


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Be Curious

Be Curious

Joe has the curiosity of a child.

• There to feed his own mind, not the listeners

• He wants to understand what makes them tick

• He's not afraid to look dumb and asks for explanations

Where would your curiosity lead you?

Lesson: genuine curiosity gets anyone talking.


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Asking Questions Is Obsolete

Asking Questions Is Obsolete

Joe rarely asks a question.

• He poses a fact that triggers a story

• He'll encourage them to go on and dig deeper

• Like modelling clay, he nudges the conversation's direction

He gets guests invested in the story, it's about them.

Lesson: don't force it, listen & adjust.


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Put A Stop On BS

Put A Stop On BS

Joe has limits.

• Joe calls BS if needed

• Producer Jamie looks up facts & examples

• His input corrects & keeps the conversation on track

Everyone has the right to their own opinion, not their own facts.

Lesson: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.


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Body Language

Body Language

Joe reads the conversation

• He leans in, reads & mirrors body language

• Alters between open questions, encouragement, and facts

• There is no predetermined endpoint, he'll steer it to a close

Lesson: a conversation is 70% non-verbal, learn to read & use it.


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Being Authentic: Beyond Podcast Interviews

Being Authentic: Beyond Podcast Interviews

Forget interviews.

This applies to any conversation.

In your next conversation:

• Establish trust

• Get them invested

• Lead with curiosity

• Respond, don't react

• Overdo your homework

• Pose facts, trigger stories

• Listen, check facts & nudge

Authenticity is your megaphone.


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